Interview with Dr. Jan Holden for the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) podcast. In this episode, Susan interviews Dr. Jan Holden, who recently retired from a 31 year career as part of the UNT Counseling Program. Dr. Holden speaks with Susan about her background and how she came to conduct extensive research into the counseling implications of near-death experiences, after-death communication, and other transpersonal experiences—those that transcend the usual personal limits of space, time, and/or identity. Dr. Holden shares examples of astonishing transpersonal experiences from her research and discusses the profound life changes reported by those who have had these experiences.