Transcript of a deliberation meeting held by the Commission to Eliminate Child Abuse and Neglect Fatalities (CECANF) held January 12-13, 2015 in Phoenix, Arizona. This meeting was convened for Commission members to discuss the issues of defining and counting child abuse and neglect fatalities and to explore recommendations for addressing them.

Interview with Gretchen Legler from Salt Lake City, Utah, and her partner Ruth Hill, from Woburn, Massachusetts, both homesteaders. Legler and Hill discuss their respective families, upbringing, their interest in animals and the environment, the influence of their families, traveling to Anatarctica, Alaska, and other places, meeting one another and developing a relationship, returning to New England and developing a farm, neighbors and the local community, and slaughtering and the ethics of meat.