Audio interview from the Wes Phelps Podcast Interviews Collection recorded on October 21st, 2022 in Houston, Texas. In this interview, Chris Haight discusses the lives and deaths of John Griffin and Tommy Lee Tremble, two gay men who were close friends and roommates in Dallas in the 1980s. Haight discusses their negative treatment through newspaper coverage following their murders and the significance of applying humanity to their cases. Haight continues on to describe the trial and arrest of Richard Bednarski for the murders of the two men, critiquing his sentence and the roll Judge Jack Hampton played in his case.