Interview with Richard Vincent, a member and former pastor of the Metropolitan Community Church from Kirksville, Missouri. Vincent discusses his education and religious background, the Circle of Friends in Dallas and discovering the Metropolitan Community Church, establishing MCC Dallas, ministering to prisoners, becoming the first pastor of MCC Dallas, cooperation with bars and other LGBT community establishments, the congregation, moving the church, his theology, succeeding pastors, and reflections on his ministry.

Interview with James Vohs, former CEO and president of Kaiser Permanente from Berkeley, California. Vohs discusses his background, his career at Kaiser, the inception of the Kai-Pru venture, Kaiser-Prudential Advisory Services, financial and managerial arrangements, reception and resistance by the medical community, the Dallas healthcare market, and the impact of Kai-Pru.