Audio interview from the Wes Phelps Podcast Interviews Collection recorded on September 15th, 2022 in Austin, TX. Phelps interviews Lauren Gutterman, discussing her research on queer women in the post World War II period. Gutterman discusses the ways in which women during the post-war period, despite being married to men, engaged within the lesbian community, often forming romantic and sexual relationships out of intimate friendships. She discusses major differences in the social experiences of queer men and women, as well as experiences of coming out in the 1950s and 1960s. Gutterman continues to discuss changes in divorce and child custody laws which occurred in the 1970s and their effects on the lives of women. The custody trial Risher v. Risher is heavily discussed, as well as the supreme court case Roe v. Wade.