Video of Mark Phariss and Vic Holmes speaking at Outrageous Oral. Longtime partners Phariss and Holmes share the story of how they met and talk about their excitement about being able to marry due to a hoped-for favorable decision in Obergefell v. Hodges before the Supreme Court of the United States. The couple's careers (in the Air Force and as a corporate lawyer) forced them to stay closeted professionally; they discuss how they developed codes in order to express affection to each other without "outing" themselves.